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Clint Bowyer Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) superbe la vitrine :)tout est dans un remarquable état de conservation37.000 pièces ça faisait de quoi tenir un siège Edited January 16, 2012 by Clint Bowyer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ketene Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Etonnant cette quantité de carreaux.On en sait plus sur le pourquoi de ce stock de munitions ?Car en dehors du bois, peu recyclable pour en faire des objets utiles, le métal aurait pu être réutilisé pour en faire des armes plus modernes à l'époque par exmple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jihaif Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Présentation assez originale : sur certaines photos,on dirait que les carreaux sont acheminés comme les cartouches sur une bande de mitrailleuse ...En quel bois sont-ils fabriqués? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nils Visser Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 The crossbow bolts are made from oak (chêne).This more or less seems the standard munitions depot of the civilian militia's as found in Germany, the Low Countries, Northern France (I don't know about the south). We have manuscripts which list city council orders for 30,000-35,000 arrows or bolts. This particular collection seems to have been acquired between 1475 and 1500. It was kept in the basement of an old church. Guns, bullets and gunpowder replaced the old weapons, and there was a legal argument between the church and the city council about whom owned what. Until this was decided, nothing could be sold to salvage the wood or iron. It dragged on so long, it was mostly forgotten. In the 1880s ownership was finally granted to the city council, by that time it was recognized the collection had a historical value. It was rediscovered in the 1980's and then finally displayed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMC Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) The crossbow bolts are made from oak (chêne).This more or less seems the standard munitions depot of the civilian militia's as found in Germany, the Low Countries, Northern France (I don't know about the south). We have manuscripts which list city council orders for 30,000-35,000 arrows or bolts. This particular collection seems to have been acquired between 1475 and 1500. It was kept in the basement of an old church. Guns, bullets and gunpowder replaced the old weapons, and there was a legal argument between the church and the city council about whom owned what. Until this was decided, nothing could be sold to salvage the wood or iron. It dragged on so long, it was mostly forgotten. In the 1880s ownership was finally granted to the city council, by that time it was recognized the collection had a historical value. It was rediscovered in the 1980's and then finally displayed.Welcome to the forumIsit possible to have technical data of the examined bolts ?(size,diameter and weight , other pictures?) Edited January 16, 2012 by JMC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriceB Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Impressionnant ! Jean-Michel en a perdu son avatar :06: .Belle mise en valeur de cette exposition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nils Visser Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 You bet, but it will take a while. We are from the Dutch Warbow Society, and our research team is working on making a website where we can publish pictures and data. I will also write an article ofcourse and see if magazines are interested.So the data will come, but it will take some time, as you can imagine, there is a huge amount of information to work through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ketene Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 37000 carreaux, il y avait de quoi équiper au moins dix divisions !!!!!!! :oups: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PEDRO Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 37000 carreaux, il y avait de quoi équiper au moins dix divisions !!!!!!! :oups:N'exagérons rien! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cécile Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Magnifique ! Outstanding !Plusieurs empennages sont en semi-hélice comme les carreaux que l'on t'a prêtés JMC. Intéressant ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nils Visser Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 There were a wide variety of different arrowheads of the types mentioned by Serdon or Zimmerman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cécile Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 How about the vanes? It seems some have a helical design. Am I right ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nils Visser Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 <p>Two vanes, helical. Made of a strip of wood. Most arrows were rather crude, designed for one time use only, rather than frequent re-use. Logical ofcourse, if you're shooting from a city wall at besieging troops, it's rather hard to go down and get your arrows again. There was a wide variety of different types of arrowheads. We are saving the detailed pics for publications.</p><p> </p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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